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Is this gambling...........
#1
Hi, I attend Wakefield GA and we've had a scenario come up recently which has proved quite divisive. A member who attends regularly has competed in a darts tournament with a small entry fee that he feels he has no chance whatsoever of winning, he says he plays it as sometimes there are players that are well known competing and he would like the experience of playing against them even though he knows it's highly unlikely that he will even win one individual leg let alone the match.

So, is this gambling? I have my view but as to ensure that answers to this aren't influenced by it I will keep that to myself for now.

As many responses as possible please before Thursday night so that I can report back to our group!

Many Thanks

   Adam
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#2
Hi Adam    Of course its gambling! No doubt about it. If theres a prize involved and the person can win or lose, its gambling. Any betting or wagering, where the outcome is uncertain or depends upon chance or skill, constitutes gambling. Its gambling in the same exact way as betting at the bookies, playing roulette, blackjack or on the horses. My understanding of the definition of the illness that we share is based upon many years in recovery. Hope that my explanation helps the debate in your room. Wishing you and your room much unity in GA.                                                                                                                                                                                                            LewB-Woodbury Monday Night
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#3
Through my experience, I've heard situations like this before...

GA's current definition of gambling is in the handbook...I wonder how many are aware of it?

Are you Adam?
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#4
Could you just provide the definition here then please Smartie for all to see?

That would be far easier than directing us to a handbook.

Thanks
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#5
Not so sure it would Adam....there's a lot more to read in the handbook than just the definition of gambling....

Essential stuff...

Any group that hasn't got a copy can get one from their regional literature distributer or the National Information officer (details available on the contact us page)

Smartie xx
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#6
I see what you're saying Smartie, but this post isn't about the other things in the handbook it's purely about this question, therefore giving out the information that you clearly know and I do not would be of great help.
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#7
Did you end up reading the GA handbook Adam?
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#8
For me it depends on how that person sees it. For example, it could be viewed that an entry fee where there is a cash prize is the main reason for taking part. Or it could be seen as an entry fee where the main reason for taking part is the enjoyment of the activity, much like paying to go to the cinema.

Would I ever try to convince someone that they have, or even haven't, had a bet? No, because it is a personal thing to decide and to declare. However, it can provoke some good discussions. Just be cautious though because prolonged discussions on this can cause divisions in meetings. If you wanted to discuss something like this, then it would be best to use hypothetical scenarios and to have a disclaimer that any likeness to real situations are unintended.
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#9
(16-02-2016, 11:01 AM)adam240681 Wrote: Hi, I attend Wakefield GA and we've had a scenario come up recently which has proved quite divisive. A member who attends regularly has competed in a darts tournament with a small entry fee that he feels he has no chance whatsoever of winning, he says he plays it as sometimes there are players that are well known competing and he would like the experience of playing against them even though he knows it's highly unlikely that he will even win one individual leg let alone the match.

So, is this gambling? I have my view but as to ensure that answers to this aren't influenced by it I will keep that to myself for now.

As many responses as possible please before Thursday night so that I can report back to our group!

Many Thanks

   Adam

Thanks  adam  for  the  question  is  this  gambling.
anything   with   the  intention  to  win  is  gamble  if is  to  get  a  reward  at the end    if it is       only  for     fun  and  socialise      and  past  time    in   my  view    is not  gamble      but  if  could  lead  to  want to gamble ,   if is   for     for  example     money   rewards   in  any  case  I will not  chance   to  tempt   myself  I  will be  weak    if    I  lose  and  want   to  just  say   I  want to  win    at the  end . I am  a  compulsive  gambler     or  rather  was,  I    now   ind  other  things     to   pass  my time.   I do not       want  competition  on  my  mind.
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